Blackden Brook, Kinder, Crookstone Out Moor & Upper Ashop

This Peak District walk comes with a warning as it's not suitable for those who don't like scrambling along the side of vertical banks or who are not happy crossing streams. It is undoubtedly easier to do the walk by going up Blackden Brook - rather than coming down it - and it is easier in good, dry weather. The reward is some great views!

Technical sheet
No. 292985
A Hope Woodlands walk posted on 04/07/16 by Walking Britain. Update : 10/10/16
Calculated time Calculated time: 4h00[?]
Distance Distance : 6.5mi
Vertical gain Vertical gain : 1178ft
Vertical drop Vertical drop : 1191ft
Highest point Highest point : 1890ft
Lowest point Lowest point : 846ft
Average Difficulty : Average
Back to starting point Back to starting point : Yes
Walking Walking
Area Area : Peak District
Location Location : Hope Woodlands
Starting point Starting point : N 53.40222° / W 1.80445°
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(D)There is enough parking for about a dozen cars on the south side of the A57 at grid reference SK130895. Go through the gate and down to the footbridge over the river Ashop. Carry on up the hill until you get to the gate with the NT sign indicating that you are coming onto the High Peak Estate Blackden Brook. Go through the gate and carry on uphill with the wall on your right. The path periodically climbs away from the stream in order to get past a couple of waterfalls. At these points the path is quite narrow and can have up to a 20 foot drop down to the pool under the waterfall. Not an ideal path for those who do not like scrambling on heights. The path also crosses the Blackden brook several times and the stones at the crossing can be slippery.

(1)The final stretch up to the top is a fairly easy but unrelenting scramble up through rocks. Once you are at the top it is a spectacular view back down the Blackden brook valley. It is also a very pleasant place to stop for a rest after what could have been a couple of hours of clambering up onto Kinder. Turn left along the ridge and follow the path along the edge until you come to be more or less opposite the Alport Dale valley. There is a cross roads of paths at this point. Going left will take you around a loop above Ashop Moor and bring you back to where the path straight ahead would have led, i.e. to another intersection of paths, directly east of Madwoman's Stones.

(2)Take the path to the left, heading east (not marked on my OS map) and you will come to another intersection of paths above Crookstone Out Moor. Of the two paths ahead of you take the one on the right which, if it is the correct one, will descend down through two sets of rocks at the east of Crookstone Knoll. In good weather (and why would you be up here otherwise?) you should be heading eastwards and see the distinctive castle shape of Wheel Stones on Derwent Moor ahead of you across the valley. The path comes down Crookstone Hill and eventually becomes a track as it goes through a gate and then comes to a signpost where you follow the track off to the left rather than down towards Crookstone Barn and Hope Cross.

(3)When you get to the wall follow the track over Blackley Clough, down to the minor road and then left towards Upper Ashop. You go around the left and top of the fence around the house and pick up a track through the bracken that goes uphill over one stream then peters out as you come to the second stream before Dean Hill. You have to go across country at this point. The further up you go the more climbing you have to do, the lower down you are the harder it is to get across the stream and through the bracken on the far bank. Somewhere near the lone tree in the clough is a reasonable compromise.

(A)On the other side of the stream go over the rise then angle off to the right where the gate is that leads back to Blackden Brook and the bridge over the River Ashop. Then one final climb up to the parking.

Waypoints :
D/A : mi 0 - alt. 932ft - Parking area on A57
1 : mi 1.39 - alt. 1877ft - Summit: turn left along ridge
2 : mi 3.22 - alt. 1732ft - Continue east above Crookstone Out Moor
3 : mi 5.37 - alt. 879ft - Turn left along minor road
D/A : mi 6.5 - alt. 938ft - Parking area on A57

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Opinions and comments


Global average : 3.67/5
Number of opinions : 2
Description quality : 2.5/5
Routemap quality : 3.5/5
Walk interest : 5/5

on Mon 09 Aug 2021 09:28:30 CEST

Global average : 3.33 / 5

Date of walk : 04/08/21
Description quality : Disappointing
Routemap quality : Average
Walk interest : Very good

There were 2 sections of this walk where I am still unsure of where we were meant to go. The written instructions were very unclear at the point where you follow the wall around the top of the house and later on where you take the right of the 2 paths ahead. We found our way in the end but this caused the walk to be very challenging. It took us 7 hours in the end. The instructions could be clarified and the trail is possibly overgrown in places which is the only reason we can come up with for the ambiguity going around the house.

on Tue 14 May 2019 22:32:14 CEST

Global average : 4 / 5

Date of walk : 10/05/19
Description quality : Average
Routemap quality : Good
Walk interest : Very good

Firstly I would like to start by saying that the start of this walk was spectacular and reaching the top, seeing the waterfalls on the way up and seeing the brilliant views at the top was well worth it.
The issue I had was that this walk is described as 'average' but I would say the first part up Blackden Brook should be graded hard. Not so much the steepness but the case that it was quite dangerous in places where the path was very narrow and if you slipped it could be fatal. Also in some places it was more of a scramble than a walk. Don't get me wrong I loved the challenge and the thrill of the risk but I was doing a recce for a group of 29 of us that were planning to do it in June and some of the party will be 12 to 14 and I feel its too risky for this age group and that other hikers thinking about trying this route should be aware of the dangers.
We did this walk when it was very wet which didn't help but I feel it would still be dangerous when dry.
I also thought the directions were a bit flakey when it was describing at what point to leave Blackden Edge (this of course could have been my poor map reading though).

If routes like this don't faze you, you'll love it!!!

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